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Categories without infoboxes
[edit]Commons:Report Special:UncategorizedCategories has a few categories that have Wikidata items, but don't seem to have gotten infoboxes. Also, so no automatic categorization happen. Samples: d:Q16873296, d:Q126934314, d:Q126201672. Enhancing999 (talk) 23:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: I need to check further, but I think this is being caused by a Commons database bug, they aren't being returned as candidates by this script/database query. Likely worth reporting on Phabricator. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 05:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I purged all categories on the list, but these are still on it. An alternative could be to query just for these categories and have your bot processes them.
- The discussion about the update of the report is at Bots/Work_requests. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Does the SQL you are using assume these categories have parent categories? So the ones on the list are systematically skipped. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's a good question, I don't know the answer. It might, since it has a dependency on categorylinks - but it would be a question for someone who knows the database structure better. I can't remember who wrote this SQL query for me now. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I can try to rewrite it to remove the dependency. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you can, that would be great - or an additional query to catch edge cases like these would also be easy to fit into the bot process. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure:
- Quarry:query/85833 (1075 rows, as current query but excluding 10000 category redirects)
- Quarry:query/85768 (proposed new query, 1167 rows, with 92 additional rows)
- Enhancing999 (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you plan to update it? Otherwise I can do the backlog on the list myself. For testing purposes, I think it would be better if the bot did it.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 15:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)- Implemented, running in parallel for now, let's see how that goes tomorrow. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. It seems to have worked, as none of the categories on Commons:Report Special:UncategorizedCategories now have items.
- In the meantime, I came up with Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox (those with infobox, but no item). Some have your bot as last user as it normalizes the infobox call. A few might have been disconnected from Wikidata, but most haven't. I'm still trying to figure out how to optimize the report.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 08:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)- I wonder if there is a way that the bot could skip normalizing pages with empty infoboxes? This would avoid it appears as "last user" on Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox for edits like [1]. Alternatively, I guess I could try to query the revisions without the bot's edits.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 12:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- Not easily, it's part of the workflow to make sure that duplicate infoboxes aren't added to the categories. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a specific need for Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item? Somehow it seems suboptimal to exclude categories from Special:UncategorizedCategories merely because of an empty infobox.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 19:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- Yes, those are all cases where having a Wikidata item has been requested by a Commons user by their inclusion of the template, and should probably be created if it doesn't already exist. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- A thing I noticed when updating Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox is that when users work logically, they first create the category at Commons with the empty infobox and then create the item or connect it to an item, meaning that all new creations end up there and need to be purge first. Possibly others on Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item have this issue. A different problem are empty categories there. It seems many users just let them linger when they create a better or correctly named category.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 20:40, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- A thing I noticed when updating Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox is that when users work logically, they first create the category at Commons with the empty infobox and then create the item or connect it to an item, meaning that all new creations end up there and need to be purge first. Possibly others on Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item have this issue. A different problem are empty categories there. It seems many users just let them linger when they create a better or correctly named category.
- Yes, those are all cases where having a Wikidata item has been requested by a Commons user by their inclusion of the template, and should probably be created if it doesn't already exist. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a specific need for Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item? Somehow it seems suboptimal to exclude categories from Special:UncategorizedCategories merely because of an empty infobox.
- Not easily, it's part of the workflow to make sure that duplicate infoboxes aren't added to the categories. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if there is a way that the bot could skip normalizing pages with empty infoboxes? This would avoid it appears as "last user" on Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox for edits like [1]. Alternatively, I guess I could try to query the revisions without the bot's edits.
- Implemented, running in parallel for now, let's see how that goes tomorrow. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you plan to update it? Otherwise I can do the backlog on the list myself. For testing purposes, I think it would be better if the bot did it.
- Sure:
- If you can, that would be great - or an additional query to catch edge cases like these would also be easy to fit into the bot process. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I can try to rewrite it to remove the dependency. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's a good question, I don't know the answer. It might, since it has a dependency on categorylinks - but it would be a question for someone who knows the database structure better. I can't remember who wrote this SQL query for me now. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Does the SQL you are using assume these categories have parent categories? So the ones on the list are systematically skipped. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Another Jan Michalski (Q120758799) and Jan Michalski (Q107977356)
[edit]Another next ... Jan Michalski (Q120758799) and Jan Michalski (Q107977356) Polish bookseller, publisher died in Frankfurt/Main (16th mar 1945) ... it's the same person. Regards 77.0.39.226 07:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Done Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Danuta Rożynek (Q117089745) & Danuta Rożynek (Q111285884)
[edit]Danuta Rożynek (Q117089745) & Danuta Rożynek (Q111285884) Polish physician ... it's the same person. Regards 77.8.170.157 05:38, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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Infoboxes
[edit]Hello Mike,
in the last few weeks I have connected Commonscats to (new or existing) wikidata objects, while so far no Infobox has been added by Pi bot in most cases.
For example, in subcategories of
- Category:Female sportspeople by country by sport
- Category:Male sportspeople by country by sport
- Category:World War memorials in Germany
- Category:Men of Germany by name
- Category:Men of Austria by name
- Category:Women of Austria by name
- Category:Women of Germany by name
- Category:Musical groups from Austria
- Category:Musical groups from Germany
- Category:Streets in Munich by name
- Category:Streets in Vienna by name
- Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Brandenburg with known ID
- Category:Churches in Germany
there should be Commonscats which are connected to a Wikidata object, but do not yet have an infobox. Maybe Pi bot could be started manually recursivly for these categories to add missing infoboxes.
Also see User talk:Mike Peel/Archive 10 - Infoboxes
Thanks a lot! M2k~dewiki (talk) 23:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I guess these would be some of them: https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29194852 (subcats of Category:Streets in Munich by name with Wikidata item, but no infobox).
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 00:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC) - PetScan knows Q117155434:
- I try search for d:Q117155434 at quarry:history/85965/925666/898247 but it didn't return anything.
- Compare with d:Q30047942: quarry:history/85965/925664/898245.
- page properties for Category:Naupliastraße_(München) still has "unexpectedUnconnectedPage": quarry:history/85965/925666/898247.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 00:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)- It will be a few days before I can set Pi bot running through these, as I'm currently traveling. Will be interesting to see if Enhancing999 can spot why they aren't showing up through the database query. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 05:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to be a bug in the database. phab: might get you a more detailed explanation.
- After doing an initial run of Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox, I purged all items on the list and this cleared maybe 200 of 4500. At this proportion 5% of 9,500,000 unconnected categories might have an item, or at least the ones that haven't been edited since being connected.
- Maybe there is way to query the Wikidata database with a different SQL (I will try to, but it might take a couple of days).
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 09:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)- This query could work for some of them: it finds categories that use a single Wikidata item, but don't have any templates.
- When first run, it found 4647 categories in ca. 15 minutes. It included 120 streets in Munich.
- If a bot purges them, tomorrow the categories would likely get infoboxes.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 13:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)- I've scheduled pi bot to try running that query tomorrow, and then running through the output to try to add the infobox to them. Let's see if that works, otherwise I should be able to try other things later this week. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it's an adequate replacement for the candidates list, I'd just run "touch.py" on these categories.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)- Pi bot is currently running the old and the new candidates list queries, but hasn't been adding infoboxes from the old candidate list at all, the new one has covered all of those cases. So I've swapped the old query out with this test query, while leaving the new candidate list query in place to cover the usual deployment. If it works, then the bot will go through the test query categories to see if it can add infoboxes to them directly, avoiding the need to 'touch' them. Those edits will be marked by "(legacy)" at the start of the edit summary due to the way I had it set up before. It's an approach that lets me point pi bot directly towards these new categories, before I'm back on the same local network as it for more detailed changes. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to have worked: the query is finding quite a few categories that Pi bot is now adding the infobox to. See the "(legacy)" edits at Special:Contributions/Pi_bot. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nice. Also, none ended up in the infoboxes not having items category: [2].
- Maybe the query can be improved, to get more than these 4647 categories. The PetScan-query for Munich above still shows seven categories, including some that only have template {{De}}.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 12:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it's an adequate replacement for the candidates list, I'd just run "touch.py" on these categories.
- I've scheduled pi bot to try running that query tomorrow, and then running through the output to try to add the infobox to them. Let's see if that works, otherwise I should be able to try other things later this week. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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"Wikidata Infobox|wikidata=Q" instead of "Wikidata Infobox|qid=Q"
[edit]Just noticed this is more frequent than I thought: [3]
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 21:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- this should sort it out, I've been running it with my account for testing, but will get Pi bot to run through the rest in the next few days. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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Question
[edit]Hello Mike Peel, how are you?
I've recently done a batch upload request for a Brazilian database of electoral portraits and while talking with DaxServer, he said that the biographical data from divulgacandcontas.tse.jus.br (example) is relevant for Wikidata. Would the Pi bot be able to help with this? As an example: collecting data like "name, profession, date/place of birth..." for Wikidata; linking the images from Category:Files from Portal de Dados Abertos do TSE with WD; and categorizing the images with the candidate and the election name (while creating or linking to the necessary WD pages). The database also has links for CSV and TXT files of the results, if they are useful for Wikidata, but I'm not sure how to work with them.
In the Commons:Batch uploading/Files from Portal de Dados Abertos do TSE I have explained more in deep, and I've also raised this question at Wikidata project talk. Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 22:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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